Character Creation Suggestion's

I would LOVE to see more development in here! As it is, the meager portions of plot we actually get to experience are tied up in the chapter storylines. But those are so few and far between that we only get a taste before it's lost in the mindless bashing. That, and it seems like the fights always end up deteriorating as one or more members forget about it. Of all the topics in the 'Complete' section, I would guess only around 7 of them to be fight topics.

Right now, we have some good plot threads in the works, but it seems to be dragging on. For example: Shamgarel leading the Hand of Justice into the depths of Hell to save his beloved (can we start that now? please?), Magtok becoming enslaved to Nightkill to save his own hide (lol, silly maggy), the Death throes of SCAR and the rise of FEAR (post, cult!), and etc.. Unfortunately, these seem to vanish completely under the deluge of fight topics. I believe that's why the quests were implemented (to promote more meaningful RP), but they seem to have fallen under the same curse as before; no one wants to finish them.

And I totally agree on that last part. Not the offense thing (they can get over it, we're trying to make the site more enjoyable for all ), but the Losing for the Sake of Story part:

U.S.Sentinel wrote:Be willing to lose to further plot goals and have our characters become character's with depth.

Which is one of the reasons I advocated against this rule:

Pain wrote:* Secondary characters MAY DIE in a fight with out your permission, meaning if you lose to a villain or hero, they CAN KILL YOU!

This'll keep even the best of us from taking the fall, in fear of losing a character that we spent so much time on. Yes, in the real superhero world, people would die. But this is still a game, and there's no fun in losing your characters without permission.

Aaanyway, I've been at this post for FAR too long already, and I'm in need of some lunch. So I'll stop here. I tend to ramble while I rant (and whistle while I work ).

I agree with keil. I would still like to try and work on a new system.

as far as plots go I think individuals should have more driven plots for their characters, every superhero has some conflict that they work towards on their own, seperate from those they band together for, I also agree with lowering the total points, do more with less and all that, have characters more focused into their niche instead of such broad-sweeping characters

I disagree almost entirely, I think Heroes should focus on group problems more, since this is an Rp, solving group problems allow for topics, and the points are fine, considering every character has used those points, and it is hard enough to build a good hero on these points....
That fit your plan anyways.

But theres no focus, almost every single one of the heros, villains, or renegades on here can go up against the same problem and each tackle it, most in the exact same manner, there's very little distinction except amongst those of us who have the imagination to think outside the box, I think that the points should be lowered, not by much, but a little bit just so that characters can become more focused, for instance, if you noticed when we were drawing up the teams for the final battle of this chapter VERY few people took their powers into account regarding what team and position they should fill, more people quoted their characters personality as their decision to join a particular team than their abilities, I believe this is an example of why we should have more focused characters so that when people are faced with this decision they have to weigh what type of role they can play in this battle situation, where they would be the most useful

and the fact that this final chapter thing has been dragging on for ages is why I called for more individual driven plot, it seems that everyone can't all be on top of such a big movement with ease so I thought more solo driven stories would help alleviate these problems

We need more group driven stories so we can continue without having to wait for a single person to do something, that's why it's taken so long.

One of the main problems with individually-driven plotlines is the fact that the site is group-oriented. If we all went off on our own little tangents, then there'd just be a bunch of short stories on here, with no interaction from other people.

And we actually do have a few individual plotlines that are all tied together. Xyron, Tenshi, and Shamgarel is a big one in my mind. The three of them have a lot of history going on, which is cool. But then Tenshi left and it all became 10X more difficult to manage. Which is also like the story of the site. Almost every thread comes down to one or two people not posting, and the thread dies. That's why the group stuff is failing.

But I do agree that internal character conflict helps round out a person's personality. In fact, a lot of the characters already have such conflicts. Pain's got more problems than a quadriplegic in a triathalon, Xyron is constantly trying to earn his place back in heaven, Shamgarel is struggling to hold on to what he holds dear (especially now, when Tenshi is MIA), Faith and Scarlet are still struggling with their Seperation Anxiety (lol, that's the name of a Marvel game for Sega Genesis about the Symbiotes), etc.

But like I said, it's tough to pull off a solo-issue while maintaining the mandatory group-thread style. I'd also like to see these issues have more relevance in the RP, but I also can acknowledge why they dont.


As for the selecting of groups to fight the final chapter, I also understand why people cited their personalities and such vs their powers. If you (as the character) had a personal stake in a certain aspect of the chapter, you'd much rather oversee that pert directly, wouldnt you? The leaders are all going up against Raide, just about, so that seems fine. The Hand of Justice is traveling into Hell to rescue one of their own (which makes perfect sense to me). And then the remaining spots were filled as best as possible. We couldnt really afford to just focus on who is needed where. The characters practically chose FOR us.

...By the way, I'm almost tempted to have Meteo help Raide attack the leaders. After all, Raide was the one who gave Meteo his powers. I highly doubt Meteo would just stand by as his benefactor was killed. Especially if Meteo's assistance might earn him a place in Raide's new kingdom (assuming Raide won, of course.)

I was talking more about the main story line. If we have multiple people working on the chapter, the less we have to wait for the single boss character to get off his ass and do something. Especially considering Ralph is now one of the least active members here. And to add, small groups work far better than large ones. Small groups keep a topic from getting cluttered and confusing.

((Slamfist's commitment issues are about to start coming into light as his relationship with Macie gets closer, just to add that in there.))

umm... does the seven sins count? Cuz of their bond and stuff, do they count??

But every member in a particular goup has to be present, thats the problem

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On the whole I dont think that it would affect character's too much it would just wheel the power level back a touch. Like a character like a Hulk type character with Str 6 and Dura 6 while he could get get his stats to that high a level he would suffer for being a crap fighter, dumb, no energy emission and no flight to compensate, where as now people can max two powers and still have enough for their characters not to be particularly weak in any aspect (Ie Nuke)

KOG.Net, this has nothing to do with the topic. Stop promoting your free games site, stop posting like other peoples characters (which is not only annoying and illegal on this forum, but also completely unethical. And everything you have written so far is completely irrelevant comparing to the story/topic) and stop posting this kind of shit. Or piss off. It's your choice.

But every member in a particular goup has to be present, thats the problem

Not true. A single person can drive it if they take the reins, but it also allows for several people to work on the story line at once. Despite what Ralph wants, I think we're gonna be forced to skip the end of the chapter and go on, we've been here too long.

I'm personally waiting for a good opportunistic re-entry of the storyline advancement before I jump back into RPing. I'm sure I'm not the only one. When things stay still, Things die, and I see that happening here. Eventually people will run into a RP "block" of ideas, to be figurative. That happened to me when I first joined this forum, but when I found out about the story and was invited to join the Hand of Justice, I got very creative. In fact Xyron loves my angel character I have made very much. This is a personal example of why I believe the staff of SHRPG should ALL be on top of it. I can back this up with my experience of my monster hunter forum. Just recently one of my very active mods went out of commission, and has to take an unexpected leave because his PC went awol. Now pretty much everything is locked down without him. In response, I have been taking over his role as well, and I have kept the forum from dying. The same concept should be applied. Another thing I agree on is to have all the staff moderate the storyline and keep it fluid. I have perfected that on the MH forum, and it allows the concept of moderating the story in check. I'm going to stop ranting for now.

I am aware of the fact that ultimately, I have no weight on making decisions on SHRPG. I am just stating my opinions and what I believe should be done to restore this forum to its former glory so I can finally rejoin.

Tobias is right. Ralph may be unhappy, but we have to move on, otherwise we'll have been on chapter 4 for a whole fucking year.

That's what I just fucking said.