Getting this over with.

Stranglehold wrote:Team 3 works for me =) Sorry I couldnt read the full post lol just browsing on my PSP.

You're not alone...

The Prince of Darkness wrote:Team 2

Stephen
Shamgarel
Cassiel Vs. All the Crazy Shit in Hell
Faith
Xyron
Zed Karma ((If some one wants to die.))

5 things...

1. What do you mean me VS. All the crazy shit in hell? Will I take a tactical/commanding approach rather than charging in headfirst, or am I viewed as the biggest threat or something. I hate not knowing stuff that I can use for further plot development, either for or against me or my team. I just hate not being informed.

2. If you want someone to die, I can let Cassiel return to heaven once this is all over. I would still use him in topics that take place before the end of the chapter. But not for future chapter fights. However, if that is not a good idea just say so.

3. If you cannot seem to find the time to advance the plot development, how about letting someone take over. I know you know me Slamfist, Vivalacult, and Xyron (If any unlisted I didn't know who they were) in real life. So how about letting someone else control it. Just let that person have the password to the profile and let them post as "Prince of Darkness." I would nominate Vivalacult for a number of reasons

1. He is probably the most active person here so that's not a problem.

2. He seems to make a point of checking things out at least once a day.

3. He is not participating in the "This is only the Beginning" topic, and maybe not in the topic that Team 3 is participating in

4. Things would be a whole lot faster if my suggestion is applied.

4. If you want extra people in Team 3, I will throw in Katachi and Tobais and I have ways of making Katachi appear to be dead. I also think that It will help with the plot in my involvement in the next chapter. As for Tobais, I seem to be RPing him as UBER-lucky so I'm not short on people to "recruit" so to speak. And if you need gruntwork. Katachi canmake himself into a weak but very numerous army. I am just throwing out ideas, there is no need to comply strictly to what I said.

5. Now there is no offense intended, but can you please resume that topic rather than just sit there and bullshit about how we should finish that topic rather than just doing it. I'm getting a little impatient of the way things are sitting still.

I will shut up now...

I think Shamgarel is more or less leading since he has the most at stake and more combat expertise. And I'm for more active than Viva. I check the site twice a day at least.

That answers none of my questions, only more: Sham is not doing a good job leading, cass has been pushing teamwork forever. BUT NO ONE FOLLOWS MY IDEA! P.O.D. said it himself that my Idea of a syncronized attack was Ideal, but NO ONE LISTENS TO MEH! I'm not demanding leadership, just teamwork.

as for activity, I don't live there, so I wouldn't know. He just seems more active. and more favorable here. no offense tho

ps do NOT answer me unless you answer all my questions at once plz

That would be a quite a cool plot line though Cass. If Cass got fed up and formed his own group and some of the angels went with him or something? It would be better if they were doing an attack anyway as one team could distract while the others went round the back and attacked that way then they met in the middle?

OR...

Cass could challenge Sham or someone else could and whoever wins gets to be the leader? Seems more fair...


Hope it helps

Shamgarel is leading.
1. I Invoke admin awesomeness.
2. He has more at stake and is going to be fully into this.
3. It was only because of the initial anger of trying to stop her kidnapping that he went crazy. Now that he's on a rescue mission, he's going to be a far better coordinator.
4. Shamgarel has FAR more combat expertise. Even if Cass is smarter, Sham is gonna be a better combat tactician.

Now to answer questions.

1. What do you mean me VS. All the crazy shit in hell? Will I take a tactical/commanding approach rather than charging in headfirst, or am I viewed as the biggest threat or something. I hate not knowing stuff that I can use for further plot development, either for or against me or my team. I just hate not being informed.

No. That's just how he wrote it out. Instead of a list of commas he put us in vertical order. It's all of us vs the crazy shit in Hell. You would not be viewed as the biggest threat since you are a mainly support type of combatant anyway. Either Xyron, Stephen, or Shamgarel would be considered the biggest threats since I'm going to be a crazy fighter trying to save Tenshi, Xyron can pretty much revive anyone, and Stephen is a crazy ass Psychic that can summon Spirit Bombs.

2. If you want someone to die, I can let Cassiel return to heaven once this is all over. I would still use him in topics that take place before the end of the chapter. But not for future chapter fights. However, if that is not a good idea just say so.

No one has to die. I have it on good authority that someone else is dying in this group.

3. If you cannot seem to find the time to advance the plot development, how about letting someone take over. I know you know me Slamfist, Vivalacult, and Xyron (If any unlisted I didn't know who they were) in real life. So how about letting someone else control it. Just let that person have the password to the profile and let them post as "Prince of Darkness." I would nominate Vivalacult for a number of reasons

You're not active enough to take the role, neither is Devin. Rick HATES posting as multiple characters so I am the best replacement of those you listed.

1. He is probably the most active person here so that's not a problem.

I am.

2. He seems to make a point of checking things out at least once a day.

So do I, often more than that.

3. He is not participating in the "This is only the Beginning" topic, and maybe not in the topic that Team 3 is participating in

Team 3 is not fighting Raide, Team 1 is and he does have a character. And This is Only the Beginning is pretty much over, at least whatever part Raide had in it.

4. Things would be a whole lot faster if my suggestion is applied.

Not really, we still need Pain for the end of the chapter, as well as Entropus.

4. If you want extra people in Team 3, I will throw in Katachi and Tobais and I have ways of making Katachi appear to be dead. I also think that It will help with the plot in my involvement in the next chapter. As for Tobais, I seem to be RPing him as UBER-lucky so I'm not short on people to "recruit" so to speak. And if you need gruntwork. Katachi canmake himself into a weak but very numerous army. I am just throwing out ideas, there is no need to comply strictly to what I said.

You don't need to list why you belong, just apply.

5. Now there is no offense intended, but can you please resume that topic rather than just sit there and bullshit about how we should finish that topic rather than just doing it. I'm getting a little impatient of the way things are sitting still.

It is done. We're waiting for someone to start the various "End Chapter" topics.

Wow, that was a ridiculously long post. The irony: TK's gonna have trouble reading it from his psp, lol. But yeah, I think IF the prince decides to recruit help, Sham's probably the best choice. I'm on here often, but I take too much time when I post. I like everything to be perfect when I hit that 'Send' button.

I also think Shamgarel is the best choice for leader simply for flavor. It's his fiance that we're rescuing after all. Though arguing about who has the better tactics is a fairly moot point. That's one of the hardest things about characters with high Int, you still have to HAVE the ideas on your own >.> As for your list, Slam:
1) Thats not allowed
2) True, and I agree
3) You dont think the whole "Dante" syndrome will affect your judgement at all?
4) Again, TECHNICALLY Cassiel should be able to create battleplans with greater ease, though your experience is a valuable asset. Perhaps TOGETHER you two could make a better plan...?

And yeah, Tobais, it isnt all against you. Look at it like this:
Stephen-----\
Shamgarel--- \
Cassiel----------> Vs. All the Crazy Shit in Hell
Faith----------/
Xyron-------/
Zed Karma/

I say we roll a D6 on it.

I can invoke, I'm not abusing just flexing.

So, I'm in, right?

I disagree, Cassial's plans would not be as battle friendly, Sham has way more experience, I agree with Michael almost entirely.

I could Probablly be good with the last group as Kiryu...Going Rambo on some Demon Ass....


However, I've been sorta busy lately and Im on a buttload of other rp's...

-.- This is kinda stupid to fight over and your both "Blowing your own trumpets" more than you need to on a roleplay. If you can't decide do it fairly and just split the battle plans or something. As a moderator, Sham, surely you want to keep the peace and equality on the site? I know that's what I tell my moderators on my forum.

Throw David and Jackie where you want, I suggest David in any position really, he'd be good in any scenario, Jackie would be good going up against the army, where she can use her powers to turn them on themselves

I beleive we each made 1 or 2 comments about why we thought we should lead. There is no fighting.

I think a Shamgarel-Cassiel co-op leadership would be best. It would mean we have a combat leader (Shamgarel) and a strategic leader (Cassiel). Muscles and Brains. I can imagine that Cassiel would make the battle plan and that Shamgarel would execute the plan, lead the attack and beat the shit out of some demons. That way, the good side would fully benefit of both their characteristics.

The_soapmaker wrote:I think a Shamgarel-Cassiel co-op leadership would be best. It would mean we have a combat leader (Shamgarel) and a strategic leader (Cassiel). Muscles and Brains. I can imagine that Cassiel would make the battle plan and that Shamgarel would execute the plan, lead the attack and beat the shit out of some demons. That way, the good side would fully benefit of both their characteristics.

Haha! A man that listens to reason!


...though now that I think about it, how much can you plan for? We're going into HELL to rescue her, without any prior knowledge of the opposing forces, building structure, hierarchy, or even her location. There are a ridiculous amount of unknowns here. Having a generic gameplan that is effective enough to cover any eventuality is all but impossible, right?

Unless you happen to be a die-hard fan of the movie 'What Dreams May Come'...